The Club Championships have begun and it’s time to unveil the Trophies. As you are aware, there are singles trophies for Men and Women but the most prestigious of the three is The Greg Ramsey Trophy for the Pairs. The Pairs trophy has been named in honour of Greg Ramsey who provided strong support for the birth of Horizons Veterans Golf Club.
Greg will be in attendance to present the Trophies on 29th October.
Update:
1st RND Pairs Results – 1st October – 2 Person Ambrose
1st RND Singles Results – 8th October – Stableford
The HVGC Championships are to be held in October. Since we play 50% of our games as either Teams events (Ambrose and 4BBB) and the other 50% as individual rounds (Stableford and Stroke), it has been decided that we have two club championship events:
The best placed 2 person team for the Ambrose and the 4BBB combined will be declared the winner of the Team Championship. The best placed players (men and ladies) of the two individual rounds consisting of Stableford and Stroke will be declared the winners of the Individual event.
See the full calendar of events in October here or click the individual event links from the Event Highlights in the adjacent panel.
More to come on the subject of the method for countbacks.
There will be a perpetual trophy for the winner of each category, plus $50 each for the pairs winners and $75 each for the mens and ladies winners.
Prize presentation, AGM and Member Draw will accompany lunch from the menu below. Pre-order your lunch at the bar before 22nd October and pay your $5 on the day.
Everyone can compete as it’s only a normal Tuesday competition over 9 holes off the yellow tees, no special arrangements required.
EXCEPT: Players in the team event must play with another HVGC member for both rounds for the Team Event.
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Thanks to all those who took the time to complete the second HVGC survey regarding the operation of the vets. The results of the survey are below, along with a comparison of the results from the first survey we held in November last year.
The survey results mostly align very well with the members input from the first survey. There is an overwhelming preference for 9 hole competitions with the option to play 18 holes on occasion.
The biggest surprise in the survey results is that 68% of members would like to be involved in some kind of “away games”. The committee will look at this and come back to the members with some suggestions and options.
Other than that, it seems like most members are happy with the way the club is functioning at the moment and no major changes are required.
Thanks again for the responses and also to Alan McDonald for putting together the web site response system, it made the whole process much easier.
Ian Barnard
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Hi Veteran Golfers. As promised when we first established Horizons Veterans Golf Club, it’s time for a second round of the members survey to determine if there are any changes you would like to see in the operation of the Club.
The questions in the survey are substantially the same as the first survey with one deletion and two additions. The deletion is for the preferred day to play as Tuesday is now locked in from a Horizons management viewpoint and this is unlikely to change. The two additional questions are:
On the question of separate competitions for men and women, please be aware that in January 2020 we will be moving to the World Handicap System when all ladies will get a 2 or 3 shot additional handicap adjustment for all competitions, not just stroke and stableford competitions as is the case now.
On a positive note, the Committee has decided that we will have a members draw every Tuesday at the conclusion of the presentation. The Committee will offer a $20 Horizons voucher for the draw, and Paul and Sarina from the Café have very kindly offered to provide an additional $20 voucher, many thanks and much appreciated Paul and Sarina. This means that the members draw will be worth $40 every Tuesday, with winners having to be present at the time to claim the prize. Unclaimed prizes will jackpot until they are won. Hopefully this will encourage members to stay for the presentation and socialise with the other members, which is the whole point of Veterans golf. We are still working out the logistics of how this draw will work but we should have it to start next Tuesday.
Regards,
Ian Barnard
President / HVGC.
Hi all. Time for some catch up on some HVGC items for your consideration. The newsletter contains a list of members with shirts awaiting payment and pickup next Tuesday.
Prize allocation: When we initially sent out the questionnaire to all prospective HVGC members to ask if we should have separate men’s and women’s competitions, the committee at the time undertook to reviewing the allocation of prizes at a later date to see if both genders playing in the same competition from the same tee box is fair. After some recent and timely comments from HVGC members I have looked at all the games played in the Vets so far to review the prize awards. While 14 games is not statistically very significant the data (available from me for those who are interested) indicates that women in our Vets competitions are underrepresented in the prize awards by an average 36%. This is a serious discrepancy that must be addressed.
After much investigation and discussions with MiClub it appears that, for the determination of prizes in our Tuesday competitions, only the Slope Rating (117 for men, 125 for women) Handicap adjustment for all players has been taken into account, and not the additional course Scratch Rating (SR) adjustment (33 for men, 36 for women on the front 9) that should be applied when both men and women play from the Yellow tees. To cut a long story short, this means that all women players from the yellow tees should receive an additional 3 handicap strokes advantage over the men.
Unfortunately, this additional handicap cannot be applied prior to hitting off and can currently only be applied after the round is completed. This situation will change in January 2020 when the World Handicap System (WHS) comes into force in Australia, but for now we are stuck with post applying the SR adjustment.
In future I will ensure that the correct handicaps are used in prize calculation. All ladies should be aware that the handicap written on their score card from now on will be increased by 3 shots at the end of the round. How we apply this in events such as 4BBB and Aggregate is unknown at this stage, we will just have to play the game and see the results. Since this week’s round is a 2 Person Ambrose and next week’s round is Stroke, there’s no need to think about your handicap until after the round anyway. We’ll make some tests and compare reality with the above theory, and update members again in following newsletters on this subject.
I apologise to all our Ladies for this serious error in our management of events. A case could be made for reprocessing all our events so far and reassessing the prize allocation but this is not practical. I take full responsibility for this situation and any of our members who would like to make comments regarding this serious error are more than welcome to take the issue up with me personally at any time.
Regards,
Ian Barnard
President / HVGC.
